How do I become more educated re hyphenation?

Asked by Clay {50}
11/21/2010 1:42:04 PM

 

I understand all the basics like T-shirt, self-reliance, know-how; but I'm having trouble with the double adjectives modifying the noun.

I once was told in school that right-hand lane was not hyphenated, which screwed with my head because that seems to me to be the quintessential example, two adjectives in front of a noun that wouldn't make sense without each other. I know many reporters hyphenate it, but I'm more interested in what is gramatically correct. Is right-hand lane hyphenated?

I am hyphenating things like low-back pain.  Is that wrong?

Right now my transcript is saying tramatically-induced injury.  Because of the -ly, does that make it wrong to hyphenate?

I do have One Word, Two Word, Hyphenated, which helps a lot. Planning on entering the whole book in my dx one day.

Thanks in advance.

-Clay

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Answered by Rosaly Piderit {172}
11/22/2010 10:51:46 AM

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Morson's English Guide has a chapter on hyphens which explains them really well.  This is one of the excerpts from the book:

"Here is further proof...Remove the participle from the phrase. If the phrase does not make sense, do not use the hyphen." Example:

carefully devised scenario
centrally located building

Take the participle out and you're left with this:

carefully scenario
centrally building

No sense, no hyphen!!

friendly-appearing witness (do the test and you're left with: friendly witness)
lovely-lined face (lovely face)

yes sense, yes hyphen. :) ...Silly but it works.



Answered by DRob63 {163}
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11/24/2010 12:05:50 AM

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The best explanation I have found was through Peggy Armstrong's "The Proofreading Manual."  I purchased it through the NCRA Online Store.

If you'd like more information, feel free to contact me through drscoping@gmail.com.

I train scopists and completely understand how confusing some aspects of punctuation can be.  Feel free to check out my website of www.joyfulscoping.com to find out more.

Sincerely,
Ms. Devon Roberts
www.joyfulscoping.com
drscoping@gmail.com

Read a lot of really good writing such as the New Yorker and quality novels. It comes by osmosis.    -    Cathryn Bauer 11/28/2010 1:58:58 PM | Flag


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Marla Sharp
Here are some good sites:http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000127.htmhttp://www.punctuationmadesimple.com/PMSHyphen.htmlhttp://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/576/1
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Audrey Ling
ly adverb plus participle (richly deserved reward) is not hyphenated -- i have the page number of my style book regarding hyphens memorized so that i can look them up quickly! dual adjectives are hyphenated, as are adjective plus noun, all in prenoun position, of course.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Jennifer Tow Hulbert
It actually sounds as though you have a pretty good handle on it, and I`m sure the sites will help. Just a note on the -ly words, though. They are not hyphenated. Those are adverbs, which are not hyphenated...only adjectives in the scenario you provided should be hyphenated. Granted, it`s been a long time since I was in school, but I believe that`s how I was taught.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Christine Loeser
Right-hand lane was the number one example for hyphenating at my school! Morson`s Grammar book is good also. One Word, etc., is excellent.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Marcie Conn
My favorite is Gregg`s Reference Manual. I think it is very helpful!
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Tammy Pozzi
Court Reporting: Bad Grammar/Good Punctuation has a page on fb. Great information.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Jean Desher Walker
there`s a great book called one word, two words hyphenated by Mary Louise Gilman. Great investment. I bought mine from NCRA
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Lisle Dewar
Margie Wakeman`s new grammar book referenced above is excellent! It covers absolutely everything! She was my English teacher at the original Bryan College, and she knows her stuff!
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Mary Simiele
our office manager taught us to hypenate when followed by a noun, i.e., right-hand lane, left-handed typist, ill-fated day, red-handed thief; does that make sense? helps me every time, although there are exceptions.
Wednesday, November 24, 2010
Cheryl Haab
we were taught in school that if each separate adjective can modify the noun by itself, it isn`t hyphenated. if they need to go together to make sense, then they are hyphenated. for example: long-range plans. they`re not LONG plans and they`re not RANGE plans -- they need to go together to make sense. Therefore, the words must be hyphenated. I don`t know if it always works, but it`s a good rule of thumb.
Wednesday, November 24, 2010
Nancy Sarti Reinke
Morson`s English Guide for Court Reporters: Don`t use a hyphen between an adverb that ends in ly and a participle. Test the sentence by removing the participle. If what remains does not make sense, do not use the hyphen. If the sentence does make sense, the ly word is an adjective, not an adverb, and the hyphen is used between ly adjectives and participles. Examples: Traumatically induced injury wouldn`t have a hyphen because traumatically injury doesn`t make sense. She has a love
Wednesday, November 24, 2010
Kathy Giangrande
I also refer to a book I got a long time ago called One Word, Two Words or Hyphenated. I will look for it to give you the author and repost.
Wednesday, November 24, 2010

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